In May 2017 the Tobacco Products Directive will come into force. This regulation was created in the EU parliament by un-elected officials, voted through by MEP’s and coincided with a massive increase in lobbying spend by tobacco and pharmaceutical industries. However as this was enacted into UK law in May 2016 the recent Brexit vote to leave the EU will not effect this current legislation, only a repeal of the law in UK parliament would change the current situation.
This is an update to the article: “Electronic Cigarettes in 2016 – How E-cig UK regulation is set to change the way you vape” which received hundreds of thousands of views and hundreds of comments and shares.
To recap, here are some of the regulations and restrictions that must be complied with for the e cigarette regulation for 2017.
UK Vaping Laws 2017
Maximum refill containers can not exceed 10ml.
Aside from the increase of environmental waste from all these extra plastic bottles, this will increase e liquid cost as packaging makes up a significant part of the cost of production.
Maximum nicotine strength of 20mg.
A blow to new users who are coming from a heavy smoking habit, 24mg was a common strength to help initially kick the cigarettes. The biggest effect will be on the DIY market, where high strength nicotine concentrate of up to 72mg/L was commonly used to mix your own juice. No “end consumer” can purchase nicotine base liquid in strength over 20mg/L and bottle size over 10ml.
Maximum tank capacity of 2ml.
Say goodbye to a lot of the high performance and “sub ohm” vaping tanks and a massive reduction of product choice. Expect only a few compliant tanks to be available and to be refilling them much more often.
Product approvals, Packaging requirements, customer notifications and data reporting.
Some of this is welcomed by the industry to increase quality control and safety, however much of this is already done voluntarily by reputable retailers and manufacturers. Costly product registration for each and every product variation (each variation of strength and flavour) will massively reduce e liquid choice and new flavours brought to market. Extra business costs for compliance will ultimately lead to increased cost of products for the consumer.
Vaping in 2017
So 2017 will be the year of change for electronic cigarettes in the UK. Expect a massive shake up of the industry with smaller businesses shutting down, a massive reduction of product offerings and increased costs across the board. At CigElectric we have been preparing for compliance for over a year and are well positioned to adapt to the changes. We will be selling our 30ml e liquids until the 19th of May and hope to have all our popular flavours available in 10ml size after that, unfortunately our 24mg strength will be discontinued. We will be selling our highly popular EU compliant Endura T18 starter kit and EU compliant iClear clearomizer range along side other high quality and compliant tank options.
We recommend stocking up on your regular products well before the 20th of May as there may be a rush due to customers stockpiling in preparation for the ban.
We would really appreciate if you could share this article as much as possible as there are many e cig users who are unaware of the upcoming changes to the UK vaping laws and regulations.
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Mr Lee you aru prety dump person, People like you voting for...
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Once again all because the big smoking company losing money so they are going to change vaping so people will have to pay more they tell people to stop smoking so we vape that help people to stop smoking it will drive people to pick up the fag again so what ever u do we can win and we r not in the Eu anymore so you do we have to listen to what the Eu want it should be wot the uk people want and the mp should listen to us I’ve tried the little pen and they r sh/t I’ve got a alien and it stop me putting a fag in my mouth and ten ml I only have 3mlg of nicotine in mine so I would be vaping 3 bottle a day the uk is going to sh/t listen to the uk people and wot they want so wot if government is losing money throw the tobacco company get over it people have stop smoking and started vaping now u want to make money off of that don’t u think u get enuff off of us will all the tax on everythink from food drink fuel cloths and everythink eles mp can suck my c**king
I fully agree with this but you said it yourself in the post, tobacco industries are losing so much revenue from the vaping industry that the collapse of tobacco would destroy other industries like the cancer research, cancer research and the tobacco companies earn the same money, people buy tobacco which goes into all these new lukemia equipment, and the money people spend to use these machines goes into the tobacco branding fund, so they can grow and sell more tobacco, the amount of money the tobacco industry and other industries would lose if they collapsed would be tremendous, furthermore the TPD bought the rights to all vaping regulations so that they can control what happens with vaping, if vaping gets crazy they up the price then when tobacco starts kicking off again they’ll up the prices, it’s an endless cycle that will just end up flowing their pockets with more money and so forth with these other industries with shares in the products.
Are you fucking insane how the fuck does the tobacco industry pay for cancer research, are you some sort of dumb cunt. If everyone stopped smoking cancer levels would go down therefore reducing the amount of cancer patients they’re are. Golden Virginia do not pay towards cancer research, go suck a big fat one, oh and learn how to spell before you develop an opinion
WOW wow and wow again. I can see both sides but dumb ignorance like yours Oliver is certainly not the answer. I agree that less smoking equals less treatment required however from and economical and silent political perspective there is certainly truth to what Shane says. if one was to be educated on how to voice an opinion then i know who would be less clued up. You need to grow up and learn how to communicate.
Hi Oliver,
If you’re going to have a go at someone because of their spelling you better make sure yours is impeccable!
They’re are??? I’m sure you meant there are…
If you are going to be a spelling nazi then start with yourself.
Haha learn to spell. Surely you meant cancer patients there are and not “they’re are” hahaha haha
Hahaha, Clearly doesn’t know how tax works either! What a wally!
*there are.
What he means is that they do give funding which is true, they don’t pay for the whole thing just a certain percentage of their profits go to funding.
But where he is wrong is that if every person stopped then the risk of lung cancer to people is less, even though cancer research will get less funding it will balance itself out as less and less people will be treated for cancer.
As for these silly little laws from the TDP I can’t see the difference between buying a 10ml bottle to buying 10 x 10ml bottles which would still add up to 100ml also buying a tank that hold 2ml to filling up that same tank 3 times, if they are talking about the amount of vape they produce then they need to look at the coils not the tanks, a 2ml tank can produce the same and even more vape than a 6ml tank depending on what tank and coil setup you use.
I think these laws are strictly money based to make people pay more it has nothing to do with encouraging kids to vape as it was once stated or for the health reasons as its been proven time and time again its a lot safer than a real cigarette.
Kids will Vape or smoke a real cigarette they don’t need to be encouraged to do this, if they want to do it they will no matter on what the health risk is or the cost.
Are u serious?
Please explain how “we r not in the Eu anymore”
We are still in the E.U
i quit smoking november 2016 moved to vaping saw the new TPD laws and bought 10 years supply to make my own liquid. The astounding degree of ignorance the law makers are showing just makes me want to knock their heads together. It’s amazing what a large group of true idiots can come up with and justify with no facts whatsoever.
That’s strange as nicotine only has a 1 year shelf life so you’re screwed
You can freeze it
You sound very glib and clever mate 🙂
In actual fact if you freeze your Nicotine it will last for years just fine.
I’m on it. I’ve switched to vaping 2 weeks ago and now the fckn tobacco firms have got their tentacles into it. I’ve just read there won’t be any colour allowed so if that is so what about flavour??
Here we go again. The government is losing a revenue stream from tobacco so they find another of life’s pleasures to legislate and no doubt tax.
Half of these expense fiddlers should be behind bars anyway for theft, so I for one will happily turn to the black market for my supplies.
Up the revolution !!
I can still make my own DIY liquid with 100 ml bottle. No one can do shit to us. Theh can still sell the parts seperatelly for big tanks 😀
will it affect the DIY market? I think the nicotine part but what about the rest?? ive never made my own and will if we still can, just stock up on the nicotine!
I’m just going to wait until the shops start to sell of the big tanks cheap which will happen.
the is no law stating that you can’t buy bigger tanks from over seas the law ism just for shops in this country.
They can still sell the coils just not the tanks which to me is stupid because the GMT will lose revenue, me personally would not limit the size of tank you can use because the bigger that tank is the bigger the coils is going to be and the bigger the coil the more juice is used per toke which inturn means your going to buy more juice which means more revenue.
VIVA THE VAPING REVOLUTION why should we stand by sand let them take this from us we are no longer in the EU so why should there rule and regulations regarding the TPD affect us we should be aloud to have tanks of whatever size we please and have whatever strength we please
We are in the EU and will be for another two years.
Even then, the UK will adopt ALL EU laws before starting work on reviewing them and repealing/ changing them if deemed appropriate.
We are still in the EU
No we aren’t we left last year
We voted to leave last year but it will take approximately 2 year’s for it to actually happen. Have you not been following the news. Theresa May has put negotiations on hold until after the next election
Mr Lee you aru prety dump person, People like you voting for leave. last year was just referendum and this year was drawn article 50 to leave EU and will take arround 2 years to leave.
It is the Government losing millions in revenue, yet they want us to give up smoking – it’s worse than eating a cooked breakfast
this is bs you get it in the neck for smoking and the only way people can stop is vaping and their taking that away from us might as well turn into a communist country then the government will be happy lets face it they tax us to death anyway
Is this not “regulation by by taxation”???
Regulation (I personally would like to know what’s in some of the crap I’ve vamped), BUT do it SENSIBLY, so ALL concerned benefit!!
Nes pas???
I tend to VAPE notVAMP by the way, had a stroke a 2 weeks ago, fingers still not “with it yet!!!
SORRY!
All of you should quit vaping. I vaped for 2 months to get off cigarettes and then off vaping. I am appreciative to the help vaping provided me. But by remaining an addict to nicotine, I end up paying whatever is the going rate for my nicotine, no thankyou. What do you all expect the government not to tax vaping. It was always going to happen.
No sorry. But nobody should have to quit vaping.. that’s bollocks. Yeah some people use vape as a method to come off cigarettes but others actually enjoy it as much as your general working man or woman who hoes to the pub to enjoy a drink. You can get 0mg nicotine flavours. I know people who vape and have never touched a cigarette in their life. I enjoy vaping. I find it pleasant and it doesn’t make my clothes stink and doesn’t discolour my skin. Fuck the vape haters . They should go find something else to moan about and leave vapours alone.
Fuck the system!
What you people don’t understand is it’s not the tabbacco companies it’s the pharmaceutical industry that have asked for the push on vaping to be regulated due to the losing money. Its fucking pathetic and outright wrong! As. Sling isn’t classed as smoking, I hope all those useless MPs and the government go and fucking die!
What a load of backwards thinking bullshit! I’m a smoker & vaping has helped me to drastically reduce. I love vaping with the mods & the tanks just the way they are. Reduce the size of bottles. Why the hill billy fuck do you do that when a sub ohm vaper needs more than a 10ml bottle. You can’t give somebody a gift & then they really enjoy it & works just fine… But wait, I’m taking that gift back from you, adjusting it & you won’t like it as much. Now you will have to live with the gift like that. So there! Rules. Fuck these stupid regulations. The system is fine how it is. Now give me back my candy!
So much for Brexit! I’m sick of that word now. We were led up a blind alley with that bloody referendum.
If the question asked was something like… Should the United Kingdom (in 2 years or so think about possibly making a plan and then maybe, possibly after a further year of waffle) leave the EU? (PS. It will take a further 5 years or more to reverse EU Law. Then we need to relegislate ALL into Sovereign law before we can even consider reversing Them!)
Yes or No?
I reckon the result would be slightly different.
Theresa May “Brexit means Brexit” means the exact opposite. Until Article 50 is finally triggered and the 2 year negotiations are over the UK is still firmly in the EU!
I believe the UK will NOT actually ever leave the EU. Why? Because by the time the divorce is final there will be some sliding and slithering which will keep the UK in no man’s land!
Vaping is dying now! I was a smoker for 16 years. Cigarettes and a Pipe. Switched to Vaping 2 years ago.
Currently Vaping 18mg juices Sub Ohm (Kangertech SubTank Plus) also just bought a SMOK TFV8 on Wismec 200W mod.
What a waste of money! Come May, coils will be unavailable I can’t build my own. So screwed.
I’ve worked out that the new regulations will cost average Vapers the same as 20 cigarettes a day buying mid range cigarettes like Mayfair or L&B!
That is secretly I think what EU hope we do. To add insult to injury Zamplebox monthly subscription service based in USA but delivers worldwide have discontinued the 18mg strength!
Sorry this is so long! I’m so pissed off. We are going backwards in Vaping!
Back to the old clearomizer things you could buy at the cornershop. FECKING INSANE!!!!!
Oh please shut up
Indeed, please shut up – we’re sick of these condescending remarks.
And I’m sorry, you smoked a pipe? Were you born in the 30’s?
Your comment true but shit kid you look like you should be on the top 10 creepyist list sorry if i spoilt ya day but dont go for a job at a school
TPD should not apply as it is a tobacco product directive there is no tobacco used in a vape there is nicotine and 10ml why because its dangerous yet i can by bleach in 1l bottles at my local shop and a 2ml tank what dose that achieve other than making us fill up more all they are doing is pis**ng me off and trying to get people smoking so they can get there money from the tobacco companies this is one massive joke and a way to force vape out off the market the people who come up with this obviously have a problem in there own lives and taking it out on everyone else the must not of got laid the night before this was put forward wan*#rs
Brexit was all about telling the e.u to f__k off . and to say in voice the they can not tell us what to do enymore. We are taxed enough and yet all we get is cut backs. They never say were all the money goes?
It still is Alan. It’s not going to be perfect, but we must try and be patient, as frustrating as it is.
its all about the money
They are all just twats
Yous are all acting like vaping is a perfectly healthy and good thing for you. It probably not “as bad” for you as smoking but that’s it. Its not as bad. Not good, still bad and it looks kwl to kids plus its more appealing to them as smoking due to the kiddy flavours available…zombie juice…. Space jam…neon green slushy. If that’s not appealing to kids and your happy for children to vape without any real knowledge of its long term affects then you clearly don’t care your and others wefare
vaping is a key step for many people trying to quit smoking and has helped many people. i agree kids should not vape and the parents/gaurdians are responsible for their childs doings. many govenments in the EU are economically unstable and by restricting a new market that has so much potential is just insane.
Vaping has flavouring pg vg which are in foods and inhalers also nicotine if you include it so no it’s not bad
Vaping is 97.5% healthier than smoking and that is why cancer research is backing it. the reason i know that is because i work in a vaping shop in Scotland. i dont agree with the TPD on the size of the bottles or tanks but i do understand the 20MG part
It’s total bullshit that they r gonna fuck with the laws giving shit excuses as “no bottle bigger than 10ml incase a child gets it and drinks it! What about bottles of bleach or washing up liquid! They r dangerous and u can buy em in litre bottles! Anyone with children should be aware to keep juice away from your child in a cupboard and if their dumbass kid gets the urge to go drinking it it’s your own child’s fucking problem the parents should of been more careful! So now normal people with brains and children who don’t go looking to drink shit out of bottles at every opportunity get punished! Total bollocks! Hopefully our parliament will see sense so when we leave EU completely we can do what the hell we want as at the minute being in the EU still u can’t even sneeze in public without fear of being told that is bad by these EU law makers!
with your comment about washing up liquid, they don’t have a safety lid there easily opened where vaping bottles have a ‘child proof lock on them’ so its to do with how the parents are and if they keep the bottles somewhere safe or not or don’t keep the bottles closed properly or not
what difference does the size of a bottle make? i dont understand :S
I will just buy ejuice online from countries that dont have these stupid laws
Exactly. And I’ll happily pay WTO tariffs.
with the laws tho u cant even buy them off line can you basically its a load of shit the laws
They cannot tax vape liquids as it may contain nicotine but it contains PG as usually 50% of the mixture this ingredient is also found in sabutol inhalers and as a free presribed medicine cannot tax, if they taxed liquid the would have to start charging children with asthma for there medicine
There needs to be a wider educationon on vaping with the public being given the TRUE facts about the BENEFITS of Vaping.
The government will get away with heavy taxation and changes with the majority of the public backing there decision due to
the large amount of b/s and old wives tales regarding vaping
I tried e cigs when they first came out and was not impressed. Have also tried every way imaginable to get off a 25 year smoking habit
that at the peak of it i was smoking 120 a day. After cutting down to 40 a day i then tried vaping ( which i had in the past thought was a wankers sport )
Since Starting Vaping i have not bought a packet of cigarettes or had a cigarette in 3 weeks ( so much for a wankers sport ).
I wish i had started Vaping sooner but was put off by all the b/s and public perception about it.
To name a few of the immediate benefits, I have never felt better, smell better, have more money and have a greater lifespan ahead of me.
Many things i encounter in my ( and your ) daily life have a much higher risk to health from inhalation etc yet these have largely been taxed to death
already and remain off the flogging post radar.
Bottom line. Vaping saves ! As proven by a recent Cancer research uk investigation that proved that vaping gives 97% LES TOXINS THAN A REGULAR CIGARETTE!
http://vaping360.com/vaping-safer-than-smoking-study/
http://www.cancerresearchuk.org/about-us/cancer-news/press-release/2017-02-06-e-cigarettes-safer-than-smoking-says-long-term-study
On a final note i wish Vaping had been around years ago. Maybe i would have had many more years with my Mum, Dad and Brother.
I have been vaping for 7 years I have COPD and Asmara my doctor told me since I been vaping my COPD as cleared up by 75% and don’t use my inhalers as much as I did when I was smoking this is totally stupid it is all about the money
I want smoking and vaping to be banned! Both are not good for you, both look incredibly chavi! Those who vape look stupid and those who smoke In the freezing outdoors while the rest of us are enjoying a drink at the bar look ridiculous. Life would be better for all if they got banned.
So, you wish for it to be banned because of your opinion? That’s not going to fly.
What a stupid comment you make about vaping should be banned, Alcohol is the biggest killer in this country so going by your theory all alcoholic drinks should be banned, if they were would you still be stood at the bar drinking coke or another soft drink, your reasoning is that of a poorly educated mind
This guy for real he wants both bannedas chavi. Your a complete cock mate let me guess not a smoker are you and havnt got a clue ablout what your talking about.
The simple reality is that there are two groups that make a lot of money out of smoking and that one is the tobacco companies, and the other is the government, which in the UK at least is the biggest financial beneficiary by a very large margin. .
For years there has been a polite fiction that smoking needs to be taxed heavily because of the extra medical costs caused by smoking, but the truth is that these are far more than outweighed by the savings in care and pension costs delivered from smokers dying earlier. If it was about fiscal reality the government would have been subsidising smoking rather than taxing it all these years.
The important addicts here are these two groups, who are facing a possible wipeout of tobacco smoking within a few years in the western democracies if vaping isn’t restricted. They are taking steps to slow the conversion from smoking to vaping to protect their revenues (and in the case of government, minimise their additional expenses) as long as they can.
It is very well demonstrated to everyone that the vast majority and possibly all of the health problems from smoking comes from burning and inhaling tobacco. That is not a factor at all in vaping, which as yet has no demonstrated long term ill effects, and is extremely unlikely to have any ill effects comparable to tobacco smoking. It is sadly ironic that governments are trying to restrict this innovation that has given the opportunity to entirely eradicate the massive killer that is tobacco smoking over the next decade or two.
Nicotine is addictive, but unless a massive dose is taken has no demonstrated ill effects and arguably has beneficial effects in terms of mental acuity among other things.
As ever this is all about money, and reveals the hollowness of the political concerns about public health that have been used for many years to turn smoking into a huge cash cow for governments.
Once again there losing money so they try fuck us vapers over with new laws and shit it’s a joke vaping is better then fags all day but because they lose money we are meant to suffer I’ll just continue making my own juices once a vaper there no going back your never make us suffer stay cloudy dudes
Why don’t you fuck off with your stupid EU laws and poke them up your arse we dont want TPD
Surely the TPD regs are guidelines not the end full stop. How the fuck are they hoping to police all this. And how come things are reaching a compromise in the USA through advocacy groups yet here we are all sitting on our arses getting all nostalgic about protanks NOT. For fucks sake we’re out of the EU so fuck them and their Liberal NeoNazi regulations. Also if any of you need coils in the future get learning fast it’s easier than you think or alternatively Direct Message the coil builders on Instagram, I’m sure you will people who will help you out.
Do people not like punctuation on this forum? Is it a requirement of replying,!?.
What can we do against this?
Please someone help the vapers!
Every shop, person, supplier and user should just continue as normal in defiance of this “ban”. A law is only as strong as the Government that puts it forward, a Government is only as strong as its people.
Defy the “ban” en mass and take their power from them. Stand up and let them quake.
I used to love this country but I’m afraid it is getting steadily more broken by the day. There is no reason for most of the tpd nonsense other than to throttle back a growth industry while tobacco and pharmaceutical faucets figure out how to get in on the action.
We voted to leave the EU, now we are expected to sit back while they serve us up a large portion of shit for at least the next couple of years, in all reality it will be longer. As usual the brits will just sit back and take it like children, afraid to stand up or say anything. Makes me sad, and mad in equal measure.
Ah well it had to happen eventually. Tobacco Companies just had to retaliate against Vaping because of their losses of revenues. So what do they do? and how much do they spend in lobbying Governments to introduce absolutely stupid laws that hit the reforming smokers? My own experience of vaping has been within 3 days I kicked the habit of 40 cigs a day, and that was 5 yrs ago, I had been a heavy smoker for around 50yrs or so, since then I once bought a pack of 10 cigs and ended up throwing 7 of these away, and now maybe I’ll smoke 1 or 2 cigs a month.
There will obviously be a strong Black Market in Vaping products and no doubt this will increase the interest of the criminal fraternity with all the consequences involved, even maybe the Police breaking down doors in the search for vaping products, eventually, and Vaping Squads roaming the streets, hacking our computers and listening into our mobile phones.trying to catch us vaping….George Orwell certainly had the correct visions of the future!!
I just come back form 2 weeks in Spain and I never saw a local person using an e cig. Trying to buy Liquid was a no no. I did ask in a tobacco shops but they told me that fags & tobacco is still quite cheep so no one uses an e cig.
I think a bit of legislation around the standard of content of juice is a positive step and the max 20 mg strength will only affect a few. But anyone who thinks:
a) A 2ml tank will do anything other than make us top up more often
b) 10ml bottles of juice will do anything other than increase cost and the number of discarded plastic bottles
c) Nicotine concentrate is more harmful than bleach (both have childproof tops)
d) A consistent dose of nicotine can be achieved when you can take a small drew or a big draw (this is not even a part of cigarette legislation)
e) Leak free refilling can be achieved when the user has to point the nozzle in the right direction
f) strangling the ecig industry will help people give up smoking
clearly is totally ignorant about vaping and totally stupid for not researching the subject before introducing ridiculous legislation. Well done EU, you have once again excelled in your stupidity. The sooner we can revise this legislation in UK law and bring some common sense into play the better. In the mean time I will buy my nicotine concentrate (I mix my own juice) from anywhere I can – probably where it is less regulated than at present!!
Government finally realised the vaping industry is taking penny’s from there fat arse pockets so decide to regulate to get their slice of cake the greedy fuckers. It’s all about the money their loosing out on not safety, they must think ppl are stupid. Gonna import all my shit if I need to, they can stick there new laws right up their chocolate starfishes.
Insane – absolutely insane – the people in power really do have their heads up their arses don`t they – what a bunch of useless [email protected]@@@cking idiots they are…they never cease to amaze me with their supreme [email protected]@@@cking idiocy – LOL AT THOSE PRIZE WINNING TURDS!
To everyone that is saying we are no longer part of the EU so we can make our own laws..
1) we are still part of the EU
2) even if once we leave the EU our government is not going to change a law that benefits them financially unless it is to make it more financially beneficial for them. We are only going to get raped further so better start getting used to the feeling of Theresa May sticking her finger in your bottom.
As a heavy smoker of 25 or more a day, at the age of 35 I picked up an e-cig. I’m proud to say a cigarette has not passed my lips since. I had been smoking this amount for 20yrs. I wish I knew more about buying abroad & making my own as I have read on these comments. This is the first ever post I have been compelled to write. I have only just heard about the law when I recently ran into trouble buying my usual brand. Apparently they are no longer buying in advance of the new laws coming in. I agree, I voted out, I expected out. We are called Great Britain for a reason, it’s a shame only our people believe that and not our government. I believe I am saving the NHS money on my future healthcare costs, So why should I be taxed further? If crack cocaine, heroin, cannabis and other drugs be legalised, surely they should tax those first and make our country a safer one by reducing the crime these ‘true’ drug addicts cause and reduce policing costs. Leave us to vape in peace, we harm no one. Chav or not, I’m living in what is supposed to be a ‘free’ country, yet. I am restricted on my pleasure 🤔
just to point out smoking is only a small percentage of cancer we are all born with cancer its weather or not it becomes active I don agree with the laws on vaping or that they put the price of tobacco up to 20 quid a pouch but yes the uk pm needs to get her head out of the eu arse and listen to the uk people
Why? Your just loosing money and the main reason people like vaping is called cloud chasing so now people aren’t making as much clouds so there’s no point. Ecig such as aliens,gprivs are a lot of money so your just loosing money
Was always gonna happen. The government only wants people to stop due to appearances. They won’t allow anything without heavy taxes. To the people that are complaining about smokers and vapors go sick your head back in the sand who are you to tell us what we should do, that’s as bad as religion and the government. Go online now and buy a stock. I really don’t know why people are suprised the country is run by people lining their own pockets with our money, that’s civilisation for you.
So I have question here..although tpd applies to the eu, can we still order from USA? Thanks in advance.
Seems no one gives a shit about the environmental impact this will have… How much extra plastic and paper is needed to produce only 10ml bottles! I buy in 100ml only so now will have ten empty plastic bottles instead of one, plus the extra labeling needed. So wrong!!
Spot on Robb