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Home Page | blog | Electronic Cigarettes in 2016 – How E-cig UK regulation is set to change the way you vape.

Electronic Cigarettes in 2016 – How E-cig UK regulation is set to change the way you vape.

In 2016 vaping is set to change in the UK. Upcoming regulation and restrictions mean that the way you vape will almost certainly be affected. There are 2 separate routes that electronic cigarettes can be regulated under: as tobacco products under the EU Tobacco Products Directive and as medical products with licencing from the MHRA. We have compiled all the facts you need to know about electronic cigarette UK regulation in 2016 and how it will affect us all.

There is an update to this article here: TPD Vaping Laws UK – 2017 Regulations

The 2014 Tobacco Products Directive (TPD)

ecig-eu-ban-tweet-2The first EU Tobacco Products Directive was released back in 2001. It’s main goal was to reduce tobacco usage across Europe especially for the younger generation. In 2014, behind closed doors it was decided to add electronic cigarettes to this directive to allow regulation of these devices by classifying them as tobacco related products. After several failed attempts to get a majority to agree on the new revision to include e-cigs, these new regulations were bundled with several other proposals such as plain packaging, tighter age restrictions and larger health warnings for tobacco cigarettes to finally get enough votes for it to pass.

The newly revised Tobacco Products Directive proposes to regulate e-cigarettes as a tobacco related product. These new rules set to be implemented across EU member states will specify how tobacco related products (included e-cigs) can be sold, presented and manufactured. The new directive will come into force on the 20th May 2016.

Some of the new rules that the TPD require all member states (including the UK) to abide by include:

  • The maximum size of refill containers of nicotine containing liquid is 10ml.
  • Say goodbye to “normal” size containers and buying in larger sizes to reduce cost. Apparently this is to reduce the chance of accidental poisoning although you can still buy a 2 litre bottle of lemon bleach from your supermarket.

  • Maximum size of cartridges or tanks do no exceed 2ml.
  • This means the end of large tanks that many people now use. It is hard to see any justification to support this restriction.

  • Maximum nicotine strength of e-liquid is 20mg
  • No more 24mg strength – the high strength that a lot of people start off with to transition from tobacco. Apparently again due to poisoning concerns which have been proven to be totally false.

  • Electronic cigarettes must provide a consistent dose of nicotine.
  • How this is interpreted could make or break e-cigs. No current device can provide a consistant dose as you can draw for as little or as long or as hard as you want. Not even tobacco cigarettes have to comply to this unworkable requirement.

  • E-cigs and refill containers must have a mechanism to ensure leak free refilling.
  • Again how this is interpreted will determine how damaging it will be. No current system can ensure leak free refilling as this is largely down to the user. Although why this should be an issue is unknown, any e-cig user is used to a little bit of leaking and learns how to deal with it.

  • If a “competent authority” believes any product may present a health risk they may be prohibited.
  • If 3 member states prohibit a product this can then be extended to all EU member states, in other words a blanket wide EU ban.

    On top of the restrictions on products there is plenty of unnecessary red tape and requirements for manufacturers and distributors to comply with.
    Anyone manufacturing or selling e-cigs must notify and submit information to their member state for each and every product, or product variation that they wish to sell. This includes ingredients lists, detailed emissions data, toxicological data, information on nicotine doses and absorption data, opening and refilling mechanisms and production processes for every single product variation that they wish to sell. Every year data on sales volumes, product types, consumer preferences and surveys must be submitted to member states. This will only increase cost which will ultimately have to be passed on to the consumer making e-cigs less attractive.

    Back of a Fag Packet Regulation

    MEPs and users protests outside the EU Parliment

    MEPs and users protest outside the EU Parliment

    Critics of the TPD have taken issue with the fact that some of the proposed regulations for E-cigarettes are unjustifiable when you consider the regulations that apply to normal cigarettes. It will also stifle the growth of this incredibly insurgent and potentially life-saving alternative to harmful tobacco smoke.

    Martin Callanan, the leader of the European Conservatives and Reformists (ECR) group, said the legislation was too prescriptive.

    E-cigarette’s are surely far better for you than smoking tobacco. We have fought for sensible regulation on e-cigs that recognises the role they have played in taking many thousands of people off of smoking.

    The parliament voted for e-cigs to be lightly regulated until we know what regulation might be required. Yet MEPs and commission officials sneaked a whole raft of red tape into back-room negotiations without discussing them with e-cig users or other MEPs. We have drafted huge parts of this law on the back of a fag packet with decisions about smoke filled rooms ironically being made in smoke filled rooms in Brussels – Martin Callanan, Conservative MEP

    One of the main aims of the new TPD is to keep E-cigarettes out of the hands of children or young people. However, studies like the survey carried out by ASH show that in reality there’s only a minute number of under-age vapers – less than 1%. The revisions are driven by a fear of ‘potentially harmful nicotine’ levels in E-cigarettes. This is simply unfounded and hugely negligent.

    The MHRA medical regulation Route

    The MHRA or Medicines and Health Care products Regulation Agency are accepting applications for medical approval of electronic cigarettes. With a successful application these products could then be licensed and marketed as a healthier alternative and effective at helping smokers quit. However every single product variation would need its own licence and with each license costing in excess of £2 million this is simply impossible for anyone other than big multinational tobacco companies to even dream of. One ecig company who contacted the MHRA was told they would need 900 licences to keep selling there current product range which would cost in excess of £1,800,000,000 (yes, that’s billion). And with no guarantee that any application would be successful, this is a massive gamble that only Big Tobacco’s cig-a-likes could afford to make.

    Jeremy-Mean-MHRA-E-Cig-Mr-MeanThe MHRA is largely funded by granting medical licences to pharmaceutical products. As a result they are dependant on multi-national pharmaceutical companies, and their policies are moulded to please this industry. With “Big Pharma” reportidly loseing billions from loss of sales from nicotine replacement therapies you can easily see whos side the MHRA is backing. The MHRA also have a suspect record with regulating certain drugs – you only need to Google ‘MHRA Seroxat’ and you’ll uncover quite enough evidence to question this ‘medical agencies’ motives.

    Which path will the UK follow?

    Almost all retailers and manufacturers will be forced to comply with the TPD as the cost of MHRA liscencing will be to far to high. As it stands, this will mean a reduction of product avaliablity, variation, inovation and choice for the user. It will also mean increased costs which will ultimately have to be passed on to the consumer.
    Multinational corporations that can afford the millions of pounds investment for medical lisecening will be able to promote their products more aggresively, with reduced competition. In this way the MHRA are effectively handing the market back to Big Tobacco, the companies who spent much of the last 50 years trying to get people hooked on tobacco cigarettes.

    How the TPD will change the way you vape

    So from 2016 the e-cigarettes products you will use will most likely be regulated under the TPD. So how will this affect the way you vape?

      innokin-iclear-30

      Products like the iClear 30b will be banned under the TPD

    • Under the TPD rules, all refillable products may be banned, as they do not ‘have a mechanism that ensures refilling without leakage’.
    • Replaceable heads are likely to be banned. Under the new rules changing the head on your atomizer might be considered ‘tampering’.
    • Refill containers over 10ml – Banned! Most people buy 30ml at a time but under the new TPD regulations buying anything above 10ml will be, yep you guessed it….banned!
    • Variable-voltage and variable-watt products may be banned. According to the TPD: “electronic cigarettes deliver the nicotine doses at consistent levels under normal conditions of use ”.
    • What about e-liquid strengths – well if you like anything above 20mg then you’re out of luck. All e-liquids stronger than 20mg will be banned! The maximum strength will probably end up being 18mg as suppliers will not want to take the risk of breaching the rules.
    • A likely massive reduction in flavours and e-liquids. Companies will need to provide detailed ‘notifications’ containing all of the chemical components in the liquid and vapour. On top of this data for the components when inhaled will need to be supplied. As if this was not enough the supplier will then need to measure the ‘addictiveness’ of the product, however that would work remains unclear.
    • Increased cost, reduced choice and availability for products.
    • The possibility of an EU wide ban if 3 member states decide a product “could present a serious risk to human health”.

    What can you do?

    writetothem

    Contact your MEP at writetothem.com

    If the above seems just a little unfair then make sure you stand up and speak out. Contact your local MEP to voice your concerns about the new regulatory route E-cigarettes are heading down. The easiest way is to visit www.writetothem.com and send over your concerns on-line. If you don’t, then by 2016 expect the marketplace and way you vape to change drastically!

    It’s Not Over!

    We’re not confined to a bland, choice-less market of over regulated, over tested and overpriced products just yet. There’s still hope, one e-cigarette company is looking to challenge the new regulations. They have won the right to challenge the EU TPD regulations and have enjoyed some great successes in the early stages of the case.

    A final Note

    e-cig consumer product

    Most medical professionals agree e-cigs should be consumer products

    Here at CigElectric we truly believe electronic cigarettes are not tobacco products or medical products and should not be treated and regulated as such. Electronic cigarettes are a consumer product which is a lower risk alternative to smoking tobacco. For many, discovering e-cigs was literally like a breath of fresh air. No longer did we have to endure the self loathing of a tobacco addiction knowing too well what the dangers were. We will not stand to be forced back to inferior products or smoking tobacco. We hope you agree and stand together to do all you can to fight this overbearing regulation.

    in blog, News

    Comments

    1. Lee Oct, 13 - 2014 +reply

      Do you have any sources for this article? Thank you.

      • Lee Oct, 13 - 2014 +reply

        Disregard my last comment, all the information can be found here: http://ec.europa.eu/health/tobacco/docs/dir_201440_en.pdf

        • CigElectric Oct, 13 - 2014 +reply

          Hi Lee, Yes the full article text can be found in the first link of the post and the link that you have added.

    2. Norbert Zillatron Oct, 14 - 2014 +reply

      Don’t forget to support the European Free Vaping Initiative EFVI: http://www.efvi.eu/
      Not just “yet another online petition”. This is the major league. Registered with the EU and subject to some tough requirements. It has the formal power to make the EU listen to us.

    3. GRAHAM HINSON Nov, 11 - 2014 +reply

      Well, all my xmas and birthday requests will be for 54mg base, propaline glycol and glycerine in big bottles, and spare tanks, spare batteries and loads of atomisers plus a suitcase of concentrates until I can source these items whereever or OR UNTIL I DIE OF SERIOUS HEALTH COMPLICATIONS CAUSED BY VAPING. !!!

    4. Steve Wright Mar, 3 - 2015 +reply

      As an e-cig retailer in North Wales with 5 stores we have helped countless people give up the poison packed cancer sticks and introduced them to vaping. It is an absolute delight to hear our customer’s feedback and success stories. Every day we see happy faces of customers who are so proud to have switched to vaping. People with various illnesses who have reported improved symptoms. People who feel good about themselves, people who feel cleaner, healthier so this means peoples lives are, without doubt being improved in some way. YES, this is about people and their lives. I challenge anyone against vaping to spend a day in one of my stores to listen to our customers and to see how vaping has improved their lives.

      • Mervin Dec, 6 - 2015 +reply

        i agree a 100%

    5. Trev Apr, 19 - 2015 +reply

      The only thing that brings vaping into the constraints of th TPD is the usage of nicotine.
      All equipment, flavours and PG/VG, should still be available for “nic-free” users.

      Whether some decide to add nicotine is down to intent and availability. I can assure of one of these but not the other, which could bring it’s own dangers.
      These regulations don’t pass even the most basic “Idiot-test”

    6. Cameron French Jun, 1 - 2015 +reply

      This actually boils my piss to no end and just screams corrupt corrupt corrupt. We’ve been trying and failing to make this better for vapers, but I really can’t see it happening. They can just push this through on unfounded reasoning, with no real research or experience in vaping. It’s DISUGSTING

      No matter what happens I (and almost every vaper I’ve talked to) is just going to straight up ignore every single law that gets put down regarding the issue. I’ll be stockpiling liquid nicotine, kanthal, cotton, VG PG and flavourigns before the legislation takes effect, as will many others.

      A black market will be created, quality will drop, people will revert to smoking, potential new vapers will be turned off by the increased costs and reduced availability/variety

      This will end my online business and many others. Livelihoods will be ruined. Big corps, Big Tobacco and Big Pharma will be the only people with the power to sell e-cigarettes.

      If this isn’t sorted out by the UKs in/out referendum there will be millions of vapers voting to leave the EU, myself included (and I don’t want to leave the EU, but the health of millions is more important to me)

      • postisp Jan, 5 - 2016 +reply

        Couldn’t agree more!!!

      • Andrew Mar, 29 - 2017 +reply

        The UK leaving the EU has not stopped this stupid legislation, I can’t buy 2.4mg liquid any more. I was a heavy smoker of 40 cigs a day until I met Vapour, the 2.4mg was perfect for me. I tried the 1.8mg but it wasn’t enough, I’m afraid I could start smoking again. I’ve never felt healthier since quitting smoking and using 2.4mg vapour.

    7. Chris Hall Jun, 1 - 2015 +reply

      It’s all about the government loosing money in taxes.

      • SIMONE Jan, 18 - 2016 +reply

        I TOTALLY AGREE WITH YOU CHRIS.. ITS ALL ABOUT THE GOVERNMENT MAKING MONEY ITS JUST LIKE IF U MURDER SOMEONE YOU GET 5-7YRS BUT YET ROB A BANK N YA NEVER GET OUT.. >>ALL ABOUT THE MONEY<<

    8. Matt Jun, 3 - 2015 +reply

      I don’t agree with all your points (including your on mhra) but it’s a nicely written and concise article on the TPD.

      i was reading through your FAQ’s. Perhaps you could include some advice on safety and efficacy of e-cigs.

    9. Matt Jun, 3 - 2015 +reply

      Correction to my comment: (Including your view* on the mhra)

    10. Callum oconnell Jun, 24 - 2015 +reply

      Screw the government, bunch of wankers, money grabbers because not as many people smoke fags means they ruin ecigs. rules and restrictions on ecigs, they just have to ruin everything.

    11. Toby Yeates Jul, 6 - 2015 +reply

      This may well be delayed (total regulations) until after referendum. Millions of people will suddenly get a big wake up call to the agenda of this EU disgrace.

    12. G-vaper Jul, 7 - 2015 +reply

      IT’S NOT A TABACCO PRODUCT !!!!!..are these organisations really this dumb?!?!?!?or are they just thieves that are worried they aren’t getting enough of our hard earned money!…

    13. Gary Low Jul, 8 - 2015 +reply

      It doesn’t seem to matter how many so called “studies” the vaping community have debunked or how many of us there are standing up against these bullies these greedy idiots have lost so much money on taxes and are so butthurt about the money we have taken from them and their death sticks they will stop at nothing to ruin the industry completely. The boys at the top of all this are disgusting money hungry rats and that’s all they ever will be to us. We need to band together more in the community, learn and teach more about mixing juice and building mods because we will all need to rely on each other more and more when this shit storm comes to pass but they cant take away our knowledge and skills which we will pass on like vaping gods of old! GOD DAMMIT WE ARE SUB OHM THEY ARE SUB HUMAN!

      • Mac May, 21 - 2016 +reply

        Probably the best reply, fuck em I’ve got plenty of mech mods, kanthal, wick, juice, juice DIY mixing kits, box mods and batteries. I’m not going to stop. End of the day the companies will start selling things separate to make your own regulated mods as a kit, tanks will come with a bigger “spare glasses” the thing what’s going to cripple us is the 10ml issue I go through more than 15ml a day (3mg) when dripping or using my uwell crown they’ll drop the bottle sizes and maximise the price via tax. While the analog smokers walk round freely with no bad effects. Vapers= more life’s saved more population & less money smokers= more money & more deaths =less population. I’m voting out the EU as a welder it’s risking my job but then we have a chance to rebuild what we had…but do a better job of it

    14. ASHLEY Jul, 31 - 2015 +reply

      couldnt of said it better myself Cameron French , and i totally agree with you all. i for one will not retake up analog smoking as i wouldnt want to give these money grabbing murdering tabaco companys my money.

      i too will unfortunately be voting to leave the eu simply on the hope that we can escape thes ridiculous regulations. if all fails there will still be a vaping community albiet underground / blackmarket wich will be at a loss to everyone, it will mean all e cig production will be mooved out of the country ,the government will recieve no company / building taxes, and the amount of in house employment vaping has created will be lost.

    15. ASHLEY Jul, 31 - 2015 +reply

      anyone with any common sense can clearly see that the suggested rules and regs are only to appease the large tobacco company, nothing to do with protecting the general public.

    16. ASHLEY Jul, 31 - 2015 +reply

      Have just sent my email to all required MEPS , I call upon all vapors to do the same.
      have put my email below if you wish to use / change it to make it even easier than it already is.

      I am writing to you as i am concerned about the new propsed rules & regs on e cigarettes

      / vaping, i was a cigarette smoker for around 12 years and have traded analog smoking

      with vaping for the last 2 years, my sense of smell has returned and i am healthier

      than ever.

      It is clear from reading the directives that the suggested regulations are only to

      favour the large tobacco companys and are nothing to do with the interests of the

      general public. The Vaping community has grown as large as it has because people know

      and can see the benefits of vaping over regular smoking. if the regulations are passed

      it will kill the vaping community as we know it , all controll of vaping equipment will

      be passed to large tobacco companys, we will loose all in house employment that vaping

      provides , it will create an underground / black market for vaping supplies , the

      quality of supplies will drop along with availability/ variety and some people will

      return to regular cigarettes.

      I unfortunately along with the rest of the vaping community will be voting to opt out of

      the EU if the regs are passed in the hope that we can bring back vaping for the people

      Thankyou for taking you time to hear my concerns

      Yours sincerely,

      • Rich Aug, 17 - 2015 +reply

        Ashley-I edited and added a bit before I wrote off, hope you don’t mind.

        Dear Margot Parker, Emma McClarkin, Roger Helmer, Glenis Willmott and Andrew Lewer,

        I am writing to you as I am extremely concerned about the new proposed EU rules & regulations regarding TPD and its effects on the use of ‘e-cigarettes’, I was a cigarette smoker for around 30 years and have traded tobacco smoking for vaping for the last 2 years.

        It is clear from reading the proposed directives that they can only be in favour of the large tobacco companies and/or concern the lost revenues of the respective governments. They have nothing to do with the health of the general public.

        The Vaping community has grown as large as it has because people know and can see the benefits of vaping over regular smoking. If the regulations are passed it will kill the rise of electronic nicotine delivery (I refrain from the term e-cigarette as they are in not, never will be and cannot be classed in any way a cigarette. They are more similar to an asthmatics inhaler. I shall use the term ‘vaping’ henceforth). I am hoping you will refute this legislation on the grounds that they cannot be classed as tobacco products as they contain, nor ever have contained any tobacco or tobacco related by-products (a lot of users have liquids that contain 0% nicotine).

        If this insipid legislation is passed all control of the equipment vaping uses will be passed to large tobacco companies (the only companies able to afford the costs of regulation to medicinal status). We will then lose all in house employment/businesses that this sector provides, lose the VAT revenues raised by this sector and purposefully raise the cost to the NHS that any smoking cessation would alleviate. It could also well create an underground / black market for vaping supplies. Some people (in my opinion the majority of ex-tobacco smokers) will return to regular cigarettes rather than the thought of breaking the law. This would be detrimental on a population level in unspeakable terms.

        I, unfortunately, along with the rest of the vaping community will be voting to opt out of the EU if these regulations are enforced in the hope that this government will see the sense and public health benefits that these products bring.

        Thank you for taking you time to hear my concerns,

        Yours sincerely,

    17. Marcia Aug, 6 - 2015 +reply

      Have also just sent off my letter, after smoking 30 roll ups a day each both my husband and I have been vaping for the last 3 years gradually going down the the low nicotene, without the E Cigs we would not have done it. Used to have really bad chest infections 5/6 times a year or more – now nothing, never felt better and cleaner! We too will be voting to come out of the EU if these stupid legislations come into effect. Money grabbing government B…….!!!!! Going to stock pile my 100ml bottles.

    18. Rene Ebbers Aug, 18 - 2015 +reply

      Well, today we recieved the first draft made up for Spain. This includes. Only selling from oficial tobaco shops or pharmacies, No webshops national or international and if you like to start a physical shop you have to pay 500€ per product. There goes my shop.

      Yes i fight, I have been smoking 60 dark tobaco roll ups a day for nearly 30 years and switched to vaping 4 years ago. I can run, climb stairs and have fun with the kids without dying. Send me back to normal cigarettes and i will find a way to sue them for murder in the first degree.

    19. Sarah Sep, 22 - 2015 +reply

      Great if you’re a smoker trying to give up – good on you! But we have to protect the young’uns from these unregulated products and a gateway into nicotine addiction. Nicotine is a drug, as such it should be regulated and standards imposed to make it harder for teenagers to start vaping.

    20. jerroo Sep, 28 - 2015 +reply

      Am a little confused – only mentions contacting MEP’S not MSP’S – does this mean it won’t count in Scotland as I thought EU regulations would? Can’t believe this could happen, vapes are brilliant – i never planned to give up smoking and only got one so I could “smoke” in non smoking households without having to go out in the rain. I’ve had only 2 packs of cigarettes in a year (after smoking for over 15 years) since being on the vape and never want any again – love my wee vape. Also my asthma is so much better now so even if it’s not healthy it’s healthier! I’ve also recommended it to several people who had been trying to quit unsuccessfully for years and most have them have had much more success with the vape than anything else. I think what works so well is the choice so you can get what suits you in terms of flavours, strengths and amount of ” smoke” the legislation would take that away so it would work for a lot less people. It’s almost like they want people to smoke by taking away one of the most successful NET’S that’s been around for a long time possibly ever.

    21. jeff Oct, 8 - 2015 +reply

      I agree with nearly all the comments made but I also agree that the e cigarette and e liquids need legislating. Retailers and manufactoures should be a part of one governing body per country this may help to curb the car boot and market here today gone tomorrow sellers.
      And lets face it if tobacco and fags were as cheap in the UK as in Spain etc the e cig would not exist in the UK.

    22. Toby Oct, 11 - 2015 +reply

      https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/105139

    23. Dominic Oct, 20 - 2015 +reply

      Another teason why we must vote yes to Brexit

    24. sam Nov, 22 - 2015 +reply

      Hi
      Bin of smoking for a while now really bin enjoying vapeing. Need to get involved with this were can I send an email to and could we not just order all our supplies from america. I know it is a big shame to loose all the revenue for these new small business popping up all over. So yes sorry were can I send this email to

    25. Dale Nov, 29 - 2015 +reply

      Why can’t people just leave vape thinks alone I am a vaper and its help me out a lot so how can I help to safe vaper

    26. Daniel Dec, 4 - 2015 +reply

      It’s very frustrating that the life saving potential of these devices are going to be discarded/banned/restricted in favour of something that has 100% been proved kills 1 out of 2 people who use/smoke them.
      If they end up being banned they should ban cigarettes too as they are confirmed killers.

      I smoked 20 a day for 18 years. I am so glad I have finally been able to finally stop smoking with the aid of these fantastic devices.

    27. a fogg Dec, 9 - 2015 +reply

      https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/105139 sign this petition people we can stop this now..

    28. b tait Dec, 17 - 2015 +reply

      from the age of 12 yr old, I was a hardened smoker,, now I feel fantastic at the age of 59,,,walking 12 miles a day up hill is no problem,, so why are the governments moaning at e liquids, e cigs,,!!! Are we not doing what we have been preached all these years that tobacco kills and costs the health service billions,? but i guess it’s like fuel tax, VAT it is not channelled to where the government say’s it’s going

    29. b tait Dec, 17 - 2015 +reply

      from the age of 12 yr old, I was a hardened smoker,, now I feel fantastic at the age of 59,,,walking 12 miles a day up hill is no problem,, so why are the governments moaning at e liquids, e cigs,,!!! Are we not doing what we have been preached all these years that tobacco kills and costs the health service billions,? but i guess it’s like fuel tax, VAT it is not channelled to where the government say’s it’s going

    30. Money Talks Dec, 21 - 2015 +reply

      I just hate that it’s money that counts in the world today, not human lives. Big tobacco and all their influence in all our governments force us peons health to take a back seat.
      They could care less that this product saves lives and helps people get off of the real killer tobacco cigarettes.
      6 years smoke free and I’m going to stockpile as much nicotine, PG, VG and batteries and tanks as I can afford!
      Good luck to all.

    31. mike Dec, 25 - 2015 +reply

      I was on 50 fags a day next month will be one year of not smoking thank u Ecig we should all stand strong we r from land of vape and glory

    32. MGQ Dec, 26 - 2015 +reply

      Im not from the EU, where i live Selling E-Cigs is banned, so i managed to buy ecigs and liquids from south africa, greece, UK, USA. And it has been a great experiance. I did quit smoking for almost 1 year, i have been smoking for almost 15 years. I feel healthier, i can breath better and deffinetly smell incredible ;).
      It would be a miserable, horrific tragedy if these rules are going to be implemented. I just want anted to say that i am with you fellow vapers and support your cause.
      All the best in your fight cuz i dont want to think of getting back to smoking. I have a family and would love to live with them a happy and long life.

    33. benny100 Dec, 26 - 2015 +reply

      i just wish every one would stop referring to vapeing as ecigerets

    34. Fluxor Dec, 30 - 2015 +reply

      TO THE GOVERNMENT AND THE RETARDED MINISTERS……….

      I DONT SMOKE A FUCKING E CIGARETTE.. I VAPE A MOD WITH A TANK ON IT.. .. IT LOOKS NOTHING LIKE A FUCKING CIGARETTE..SMELLS AND TASTES NOTHING LIKE A CIGARETTE.. SO WHY EVEN CATAGORIZE IT AS ONE.. OR MENTION IT IN THE SAME SENTENCE.. ITS LIKE SAYING A LLAMA IS A SHEEP.. NO IT FUCKING IS NOT..!! THE DAYS OF THE E CIGARETTE ARE LONG GONE.. WE HAVE EVOLVED INTO A NEW ERA WHERE MODS.. BATTERIES.. TANKS AND RBA’S ARE NOW THE NORM.. WE DONT FUCKING SMOKE.. WE VAPE..!!

      TIME YOU FUCKTARDS LEARNED WHAT IS WHAT.. LEARNED THE FACTS.. AND WOKE UP AND SMELLED THE FLAVOURS..

    35. Anthony Byrne Dec, 30 - 2015 +reply

      I find this all rather disturbing. Being a former newsagent and tobacconist I was able to measure the success of TOBACCO companies by how many people it killed or suffered lung deseases. Whilst the argument can be used that no-one knows the long term effect of vaping do you really believe the TOBACCO companies and Pharma’s have not plowed major resources into finding something wrong with vaping to no avail. Vaping is here to stay whether that be underground or as legitimate businesses. The Pharma’s and tobacco companies only have their profit margins to consider so their financial resources and lobbyists will work their butts off to ensure legislation prohibits the development of flavours and hardware to ensure this does not become cost effective for small businesses. Believe me entreprenures will always find a way around unjust rules and legislation. Don’t forget governments are losing revenue to illegal cigarettes and making it up with genuine sales on vaping.

    36. paul richey Dec, 31 - 2015 +reply

      when did we last read that someone’s life was saved by cigarettes ? never and you can still buy them and here known as killers .. these are a miracle the many who would never had stopped smoking the old way , lets hope this never happens but not looking good , l have made my own fluid for years and made my own coils , just look it up please its so so easy and costs pennies
      lm all for getting out of Europe , just signed petition and added to facebook

    37. Ed Jan, 3 - 2016 +reply

      It’s all down to the government there losing out on tax on tobacco ..

    38. Jake Jan, 3 - 2016 +reply

      E cigs are okay government are losing on taxes ..

    39. Emma Jan, 3 - 2016 +reply

      10ml limit but doesn’t specify what- so can I assume you could prefer large bottles of PG,VG and flavour concentrated- as these are safe and in foodstuffs then only buy the nicotine element in 10ml bottles.

      Also what if you vape with zero nicotine content- how can that be a tobacco related item?
      Alcoholics get support and druggies get highly addictive methadone to quit- we get patches etc YOU have to buy And everyone who smokes is treated like a pariah.
      Finally how can they enforce vape size? Their use is pretty much banned everywhere already or are they going all 1984 and spying on us in the house?

    40. rob Jan, 3 - 2016 +reply

      the tpd is laughable, non leaking ect yet a nicotine patch containing 21mg nicotine can be placed directly on the skin, what the tpd really stands for Total Parliamentary Dickheads!

    41. Ger Jan, 3 - 2016 +reply

      This is just a sample of what these goons in Brussels are going to come up with
      Do’nt bother talking to your MEP just vote to get out
      And encoursge as many others as you can to do the same
      Do not lrt nameless idiots dictate to any sovereign nation

      • kevin Jan, 8 - 2016 +reply

        voting out asap plus one

    42. ALEX Jan, 4 - 2016 +reply

      IM A VAPER AM SICK OFF THE STUFF WE HAF TO DEAL WITH JUST CUZ MP’S R LOSING MONEY CUZ WE DONT SMOKE WELL ONE WERE TO THE EU AND THE MP’S AND I BET YOU CAN GESS WHAT THE WORD IS LOL

    43. Ryan Jan, 5 - 2016 +reply

      Quite apparent that our govts have bent over to accommodate big tobacco industrys once again
      Also never been a better time for #Brexit – seriously why do we pay for this monumental waste of Oxygen that is the European Union!

    44. Chris Jan, 5 - 2016 +reply

      Notice the term ‘competent government ‘ wheres that then? Every government i look at seems largly incompetent

    45. Keith59 Jan, 5 - 2016 +reply

      I have been vaping since March 2014 after smoking tobacco for over 40 years. I wish the term “ecigarette” was banned. As I understand it “cigarette” means small cigar and the device I use to vape in no way resembles a small cigar.

      I class myself as a non smoker that enjoys vaping. Please STOP referring to vaping as ecig. The first devices did indeed look like cigarettes which is how they got their name but times have moved on. Vaping does not produce smoke it is water vapour, does this mean kettles and anything that boils water will come under these stupid new rules?

      Stand together fellow Vapes and this can be beaten.

    46. Suky Jan, 6 - 2016 +reply

      Total corruption- cigarette company’s would rather see people inhale thousands of chemicals proven to be dangerous, but I’ve not heard of a ban on those coffin nail. I’ve smoked for 15 years and have tried everything to quit smoking- patches, gum, meds even hypnosis. Nothing worked. Now I finally found something that has actually helped me quit for over a year now. I feel better, breathing better and smell better (so I’ve been told)

      Now that vaping has stopped addicts like myself from padding their corporate pockets, they want to ban them.???? They would rather see you smoke cancer sticks instead cuz it makes them loads a money. Plus the government get huge taxes on tobacco so they will go alone with supporting the cigarette companies (it’s in their best interest)

      I refuse to finance these death dealer and refuse to spend another dime on cigs again. I’m sure this movement would survive and I will continue to support it.

    47. Brian Jan, 6 - 2016 +reply

      If this is the case are these quit smoking products Iike nicoettes sprays tablet,gum going to be regulated or banned,if that’s the road they are going down,I won’t stop brilliant products ,not had a fag for three years,was on roll ups,feel great since taking up e cigs

    48. Darren Jan, 6 - 2016 +reply

      so the government for years has heavily taxed the cancer sticks, shown adverts of clogged arteries have whaled on smoking tobacco kills we are not aloud to smoke around young children due to passive smoking, large percentage of the human race switches to vaping which is by far less poisonous than any cigarette out on the market. But yet the government are losing revenue, so they will outlaw vaping, be the big brother and say no and actually show their true colours. They dont care whether you smoke…… taxed to the grave!!!

    49. Mark Jan, 12 - 2016 +reply

      I’d like to see them try to enforce some of these restrictions…

    50. Brawl3r Jan, 19 - 2016 +reply

      Well the Referendum is coming up, I know what way I will be voting. This is the corrupt EU gov at its best.
      I have been vaping since 2011, and I will be stocking up before hand on my 120 ml bottles, as this is ridiculous.

    51. AndyEdwards Jan, 22 - 2016 +reply

      My letter has just gone off to my local MEP. Very simple to do – we need to get as many people on this as possible, so I would ask anyone who is reading this article to follow suit and do the same.

      This whole regulation is clearly intent on stamping out as many e-liquid manufacturers as possible, and force ex-smokers to go back to cigarettes.
      It’s a total disgrace.

      A more sensible route to this (specifically for e-liquid manufacturers) is to just create a UK registry of e-liquid manufacturers, with guidance on safe manufacturing, best-practice guidelines and possible some form for affordable annual license – say £1,000 a year? This would generate income for the country, make the industry safer and also save the NHS millions in smoking related treatments.

      We need some common sense here, not blundering, greedy EU politicians with an interest in the big tobacco and pharmaceutical companies profits.

    52. FBT Wales Jan, 28 - 2016 +reply

      Yet again these substandard, corrupt morons are demonstrating their complete lack of intelligence. When it comes to the referendum the only sensible vote is OUT!!! Silly though the idea is we should ALL get down to Dover, stand on top of the white cliffs, raise two fingers in the air and yell F#CK OFF! across the channel at the top of our voices, wont make a blind bit of difference of course, but sooner or later all corrupt regimes fall and for the EU it can only be a matter of time

    53. Jonathan Jan, 30 - 2016 +reply

      Yet another reason to leave the EU come the referendum! I’m sick to death of the EU rules. Paying millions every week to belong to a club. Lost jobs for years from coal steel car building farming the lot. Vote to leave the EU we don’t need them. Rejoin the common wealth if needs be, we were better of before this dam EU club. We only joined so we were a back door for the USA to get into Europe. Cut ties cut rules and let the people of Britain wherever they came from who live here now help Britain become great again! Let’s get our identity back, save lives from not sending our soldiers into other countries wars that don’t concern us. Let people believe what they want to pray to who they want. It’s not about racism it’s about being one country and not excepting Laws and rules from other countries , interfering in British life.

    54. Luke Feb, 3 - 2016 +reply

      The government want you to quit smoking but don’t want you to vape which is much more successful than NRTs (which of course they and the pharm companies make billions on), it’s a total contradiction!

      It is PROOF that they don’t give one single FUCK about peoples health, they just care about THEIR income! Such a corrupt system it makes me so angry and like someone already said, this will just create a blackmarket where quality and safety will go down and THEN vaping will become dangerous. I agree that E-juice should be regulated to some extent (pre bottled any way) but all these laws etc are just complete bollocks and i hope it doesn’t happen!

      Sorry for all the swearing.

      • dale Mar, 3 - 2016 +reply

        you said it all i am with you on that

    55. S.M.N. Feb, 14 - 2016 +reply

      It is a hassle for sensible vapours, but the 2ml restriction will probably make it less likely that the weak willed and those with insufficient mental capacity will over do their nicotine intake.

    56. Gavin Randall Feb, 25 - 2016 +reply

      So this means the end if 200w mods and rba and tanks if this is the end I will be gutted as I have smoked for 20 years and I stopped 8 months ago I tryed every thing to give up then I turned to my snow Wolf and it have never left my side and I havent not looked to a cigaret it’s changed my life for the better where a cigaret will put you in a grave so why would the goverment ban some thing that will change your life for the better so the government rather us die than help us just so they get money

    57. Leon Greenwell Mar, 1 - 2016 +reply

      I can do without reduction from 24mg. Switching up to that from lower strenghs enabled me to finally quit inhaling wood bonfires!

    58. Superderm Mar, 2 - 2016 +reply

      I’m new to this Vaping craze that’s become all the rage recently and have worked out I’m saving 30 pounds a week not smoking real cigs anymore! The government have already realised the hit there gonna take with more people making the switch daily so they will have to shaft/find the money elsewhere which means regulating the vapers and putting us in the same bracket as analog smokers Shit innit even if we do brexit we still gonna get fleased so enjoy whilst it’s good and cheap Xx

    59. dale Mar, 3 - 2016 +reply

      what is fucking going on here so do that mean we cant get juice for the us after 20 of may 2016 the tpd are really starting to fuck me off now

    60. Dr Patel Mar, 7 - 2016 +reply

      I love e cig and vaping and will stock up on 30ml bottle more so – i have 50 bottle so far hahahahah

    61. will Mar, 10 - 2016 +reply

      i will not abide these rules f them

    62. Welsh Dave Mar, 14 - 2016 +reply

      I often wonder what it would be like to live in a democracy. All political parties are corporate controlled. We go out and vote every 4yrs for team A or team B to create the illusion of democracy. The E.U. is a dictatorship drawn up by Heir Funk, Hitlers economics minister in 1942. Its a Nazi plan. Vote OUT or pay the price in the future folks. Vaping has been a godsend for me and millions of others. Regulation is corporate motivated. If their not getting a piece of the action they take control or close it down just like the Mafia only with less morality. Stand against these rotten bastards! De centralise government. Leave EU. There’s no other solution.

    63. Heather Mar, 14 - 2016 +reply

      It’s absolutely awful! Why should tobacco companies get away with no regulations? Ban the tobacco companies!! Murderers!

    64. Marx Mar, 19 - 2016 +reply

      Another big victory for David Cameron handlers,the uk is run by zionist bolshavick beasts.

      • Baggy Jun, 19 - 2016 +reply

        Don’t be a twat! Nothing to do with Zionists and nothing to do with Dave Cameron. This is an EU regulation

    65. Hannah Mar, 23 - 2016 +reply

      By finally switching to vaping I didn’t just give up harmful cigarettes I also gave up a long time pot smoking habit and no longer have asthma or need treatment by the nhs for said asthma !! I don’t care about the regulation reducing the nicotine level as like most people have reduced the nicotine intake since starting to vape and I am now only on 3 mg of nicotine . It’s wrong to interfere with a personal healthy lifestyle choice which we pay for out of our own hard earned pocket ! When we are saving the nhs/ government money on smoking related diseases. And keeping us alive and paying taxes for longer too !!! Leave us vapers alone I say we are not harming anyone quite the opposite rant over 😊

    66. Dilesh Mar, 25 - 2016 +reply

      I agree with everyone these new regulations are all about money and nothing to do with public health. I have sent my email and have used the templates from some of the above statements. Thanks to those who’s templates I used. I did modify some bits at applied to me.
      mySociety
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      Attn:

      Seb Dance MEP
      Lucy Anderson MEP
      Jean Lambert MEP
      Syed Kamall MEP
      Gerard Batten MEP
      Charles Tannock MEP
      Mary Honeyball MEP
      Claude Moraes MEP

      London
      Friday 25 March 2016

      Dilesh patel
      121 Somerford Grove Estate
      London
      london
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      [email protected]
      07907530000

      Dear Charles Tannock, Claude Moraes, Jean Lambert, Gerard Batten, Seb Dance, Syed Kamall, Lucy Anderson and Mary Honeyball,
      I am writing to you as I am extremely concerned about the new proposed EU rules & regulations regarding TPD and its effects on the use of ‘e-cigarettes’, I was a cigarette smoker of 40 per day for around 15 years and have traded tobacco smoking for vaping for the last 1 year and I am now a ZERO Nicotine user. I DO NOT have any Nicotine when vaping. This is all thanks to the use of the electronic apparatus used in vaping.
      It is clear from reading the proposed directives that they can only be in favour of the large tobacco companies and/or concern the lost revenues of the respective governments. They have nothing to do with the health of the general public.
      The Vaping community has grown as large as it has because people know and can see the benefits of vaping over regular smoking. If the regulations are passed it will kill the rise of electronic nicotine delivery (I refrain from the term e-cigarette as they are in not, never will be and cannot be classed in any way a cigarette. They are more similar to an asthmatics inhaler. I shall use the term ‘vaping’ henceforth). I am hoping you will refute this legislation on the grounds that they cannot be classed as tobacco products as they contain, nor ever have contained any tobacco or tobacco related by-products (a lot of users have liquids that contain 0% Nicotine like myself).
      If this insipid legislation is passed all control of the equipment vaping uses will be passed to large tobacco companies (the only companies able to afford the costs of regulation to medicinal status). We will then lose all in house employment/businesses that this sector provides, lose the VAT revenues raised by this sector and purposefully raise the cost to the NHS that any smoking cessation would alleviate. It could also well create an underground / black market for vaping supplies. Some people (in my opinion the majority of ex-tobacco smokers) will return to regular cigarettes rather than the thought of breaking the law. This would be detrimental on a population level in unspeakable terms.
      I, unfortunately, along with the rest of the vaping community will be voting to opt out of the EU if these regulations are enforced in the hope that this government will see the sense and public health benefits that these products bring.
      I would also like to point out that while I was smoking cigarettes the smell on my clothing was very discussting to my child even though I would smoke at work or when I was not around them (i didn’t smoke around them nor in the home and they have ever see me do it) . This is one of the main reasons I started vaping. I still don’t do it in front of them and they can not tell that i have, as the smell of cigarettes are non existant. This problem was something that many ex cigarette smokers were faced with. But vaping has stopped this problem.

      Thank you for taking you time to hear my concerns,

      Yours sincerely,

    67. Maza Mar, 29 - 2016 +reply

      If every person using these devices was to put £1 into a good law firm I think there would be enough money to take on these bureaucrats and win on the grounds of discrimination. Just a thought.
      I have been using these machines for 6 months now. Before I smoked roll up’s (approx 20 a day) for 60 years without being able to give it up. Best thing since sliced bread.

    68. navig Apr, 8 - 2016 +reply

      i own 3 shops in west yorkshire, i propose, if the regulations give me any problems is to make all of my stock zero nicotine, my thinking is that if i do that i will be able to stock any size of tank and battery because the TPD is all about nicotine, my shop will be nicotine free so my thinking is that the reg will not cover my shop

    69. andy May, 2 - 2016 +reply

      hi to all vapers i do agreed with anyone about this problem iam a 49 years old man been smoking since i was 16,i have now gave up smoking over 2 1/2 years now and iam feeling a lot more fitter than i did when i was smoking ,vaping is a godsend .this new regulation about vaping and all the rules are all bullshit!! at the end of the day its all down to the asshole at the eu making money they are more likely old gits which are not moving with the times and the big tobacco companies are losing a lots of money over it ,i would`t be surprised if the tobacco companies are giving these asshole in the eu a back hackhander (if you know what i mean) i am voting to opt out of the eu as well as many of us will! anyway keep calm and carry on vaping !!!

      • Annoyed May, 19 - 2016 +reply

        Since at least half the medical organisations say vaping is not as bad for you as smoking (and the others undecided), the reasons for these regulations are nothing to do with health benefits. Quite the reverse at least in the UK: firstly, if health was truly the issue, cigarettes would be the target, they are not. Secondly, etention of tobacco taxes, And finally, thirdly a sneaky backhand way of reducing the number of people who vape and therefore return to smoking to cut their lives short to save government spending on pensions and the higher costs of health care for people who live longer and need longer term care (dementia, etc).

    70. Darren Read May, 6 - 2016 +reply

      Thieving scumbags. Do we not get taxed enough on everything. they want to have a slice of the pie on everything because it has helped millions of people quit and now they feel they are loosing money. So now to tax a product that helps health system which they promote it but on the other hand class it as tobacco which it is not. they tax it to line the greedy pockets of government pockets. An d they wonder why no one wants to stay in Europe all these fat cat cunts stealing every piece of enjoyment by taxing it, vaping alcohol tobacco Road tax , income tax the list goes on.

      Here you go assholes just take all my wages I obviously don’t need them. Disgraceful

    71. trev May, 21 - 2016 +reply

      I smoked for 50 yrs was coughing and weezing 4yrs ago I found vaping cough and weezing disappeared I’m on 24 ml I will definitely vote to leave the eu where all these dickheads make the rules I just hope I don’t need to go back to cigs

    72. Lyd Jun, 2 - 2016 +reply

      Hi, I have a question, I currently live in South Africa but I am returning to the UK at the end of the year. I bought a Vape here in South Africa and the tank can hold 10ml and I Vape 0mg. Since I bought the Vape out of the UK how will it be affected if at all? Will I still be able to Vape it since I did not buy it in the UK?

      Another think I would like to point out is I know of a lot of people who use to smoke cigarettes, but ever since they started vaping and cutting down the nicotine percentage, they’ve said they cannot stand the taste of cigarettes anymore. If anything it helps people get over their smoking (cigarette) addiction. Just thought I would put that out there.

    73. alan griffiths Jul, 2 - 2016 +reply

      What is the law on mixing your own juice.? also, what is the law on buying a mod unit (220w) from china ?

    74. laughlan Sep, 23 - 2016 +reply

      looks to me like its geared towards pharma/ nicotine replacement cos that tooled up to produce those little disposable cartomisers and then lost out due to consumers realising just how rubbish they were. the power of lobbing hu?

    75. Julie Nov, 22 - 2016 +reply

      so, in light of our Brexit, how does this stand now?? Also, do you have any links to health concerns on vaping? some of the flavoured juices (usually in-store made , not premium juices) – leave me with a tight chest and shortness of breath and heart ‘flip flops’! I have applied a ‘scientific’ approach to this problem and it definitely occurs when I use certain juices. I am using a high pg/vg mix (80/20) I think it’s pg that causes the problem, or is it the vg?/flavours? any comments?? Thanks
      i’vr been a smoker since 14 42 years, haven’t smoked a real one since May 1st thanks to vaping

      • CigElectric Nov, 22 - 2016 +reply

        This is now UK law so Brexit doesn’t change anything unfortunately.

    76. XO Nov, 22 - 2016 +reply

      What a load of b*****cks. Just like the government’s policy on drugs and how they never listen to the experts they hire, these new laws ill be detrimental to all.

      But I suppose people have had enough of experts ay?

    77. jim barclay Nov, 28 - 2016 +reply

      its a great example of someone having an idea that e-cigs could be harmful and maybe they should be regulated somehow and then the implementation just goes completely off the rails and loses sight of the original idea.this is the kind of example they will play back to kids at university in the future on how not to do things.

    78. Steve weav Jan, 24 - 2017 +reply

      Looks like we’re going to have to go black market, and why not? We do for many other things, see how the government likes that

    79. Nick Feb, 3 - 2017 +reply

      It’s all a load of bullshit the government are panicking about losing so much money to cigarettes and the fact people are turning to vapouring now,apparently some of it is down to poisoning and children getting hold of the liquid but you can still buy a big bottle of bleach that’s pink in colour,How can you justify this..

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